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The above photo includes my lineage in Che Style Xingyiquan.
Che Yi Zhai, Bu Xuequan, Li Shiquan, Li Tailiang, and Dan Regan
Both Che Xingyiquan and Dai Shi Xinyiquan are taught in our Xinyidao System
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Xinyiquan (HEART MIND BOXING) is said to have been created by General Yue Fei, who was a national hero in China. Legend has it, that Ji Longfeng found a manual written by Yue Fei, and with Ji's prior spearfighting expertise,expanded the style of xinyi.This is just legend, as it is mostly agreed upon that Yue Fei had nothing to do with the creation of Xingyiquan.
Their are a few variations on the history of Xinyi and Xingyi
BELOW ARE THE STORIES OFTEN DEBATED ABOUT XINYI LIUHE BEGINNINGS
1) The founder is considered to be Ji Longfeng. One belief is that Ji passed the art onto Ma Xueli, who in turn taught it to Moslem people in Henan province and Ji also taught Cao Jiwu who taught the art to Dai Family in Shanxi.
2) A nother belief is that of a Master Li Zheng as the one that taught Dai. Li Zheng was a famous Henan Xinyi Liuhe Quan expert and student of Zhang Zhicheng and grand-student of Ma Xueli.
3) Ji taught Cao Jiwu who taught both Dai Longbang and Ma Xueli and that is where the two Xinyi lineages became different from each other as both went on to add certain body methods and characteristics.
Dai Family, and the Henan Brach continue to use the name Xinyi.
VARIATIONS ON XINGYI QUAN BEGINNINGS
1) The most popular story is that of Li Luoneng learning from Dai Long Bang and then modifying his art in order to improve it.(this story in my opinion is very false)
2) Dai Erlu who was Dai Longbangs son was responsible for teaching Li Luoneng. This is the common belief of many in Hebei and Shanxi.
3) Dai family in Qi Xian still insist that Li Luoneng learned from Guo Weihan who taught a modified version of Xing Yi and left the Dai methods out because Dai Family were very secretive. So in this belief it is Guo Weihan who created the modern Xing Yi Quan.
CHE STYLE BEGINNINGS
1) Farmer Li (Li Luoneng)taught Che Yizhai and Che went on to study with Dai family as well, and later created his own style called Che style Xing Yi. Some people feel that both Che and Li created the more modified version together in order to train people quicker for self defense as the old method was a very long training method of internal Gong Fu and was not suited for their needs as they were training bodyguards and employees needed self defense skill more rapidly
2) Che Yizhai learned Dai Style and Li Luoneng learned a modified version and that is why indoor disciples of Che style are taught the Dai body methods and very small frame in their teachings. None of these methods and small frame are scene in Hebei methods and the Hebei body method is completely different for poiwer generation and for posture.
IN OUR DAI XINYI AND CHE XINGYI FAMILY WE HAVE OUR OWN BELIEFS ABOUT THE HISTORY PROVIDED, WE WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHAT YOU FEEL IS THE CORRECT HISTORY.
Dai Xinyi and Xingyi still have the common traits of using
the five element fist,(Dai original focus was on the three fist)and animal forms, etc.
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Xingyi, Xinyi are based on the Taoist Chinese theory of the five elements. Each element of Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, and Water represent a different energy, and strategy applied in fighting, and health.
For Xingyi articles click here.
The elements are further expanded upon in the 12 animal forms which include Dragon, Tiger, Monkey, Snake,Rooster, Swallow, Eagle ,Bear, Horse, Tai Fish, Sparrowhawk, and Alligator.
Xingyi,Xinyi are no nonsense forms of self defense. The mindset of a Xingyi, Xinyi fighter is one of "He can hit me ten times, I hit him once!" This saying is making clear, the power generated by Xingyi! The power is created by the xin and yi leading the body,combining the intent with footwork,and technique to achieve the desired result. |  |
Shifu Dan Regan learned the Che style of Shanxi Xingyiquan, as well as Dai Style Xinyi from Master Li Tailiang. Master Li Tai Liang intensively trained under his father Grandmaster Li Shi Quan who was a student of the famous Xingyi Master, Bue Xuekuan. Master Li also trained with Master Zhao Shou Yun on Dai Style Xinyi, as well as the famous Master Wang Ying Hai and other Dai family teachers. As a youth,because of Master Li Tai Liang's skill and determination, Master Tao Yuan Zi(WYH) took him as one of the few disciples and taught him the secrets of the old Dai style Xinyi Quan beginning at the age of 9.
Xinyi is based on dantien power and development, and there are no shortcuts, it can take a long time to achieve good results, but those that persevere are well rewarded with tremendous power, and a healthy body. It is a long journey, well worth the effort to achieve.
Che style also has dantien development, and focuses on practical applications,using agile footwork,as well as whole body power giving students the ability to defend themselves in a shorter period of time.It is easy to see what additions Master Che made to his Dai style training after studying both styles.In reality Che style is Dai style with some changes. The true lineage holders in Che style, all learned Dai style as Che taught it. Che also taught a modified version of Che style to bodyguards who were needed quickly for important jobs. Che had to modify the training to be learned in a much shorter time than the traditional Dai methods.
Master Li taught Shifu Dan Regan a combination of Dai style and Che style Xingyi.There are many people teaching what they call Shanxi Xingyi these days,many are clearly teaching a different style,yet calling it Shanxi. Also some people are claiming that the five fist are just five ways of attack, similar to boxing.Shanxi frame is very easy to see, as well as how body method is used. Shanxi methods do not focus on the straight back method such as Hebei Xingyi. Shanxi methods are more compact and stress contracting and expanding postures over the straight back alignment seen in other styles. But to the untrained eye, how can they know? Our lineage is as pure as it gets, all our teachers are from Shanxi,they grew up there, doing Shanxi Xingyi from ages 4 and up. Shifu Regan is one of only a handful of disciples given Instructor status by Master Li Tailiang.
We do not claim any style is better, it is always the practicioner and his understanding of the system he uses that makes him good or not, lineage or place of origin does not make one a better practicioner, but for historical purposes as well as being able to tell where and art comes from, look at their posture and way of using body. method. |  |
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